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senator lindsey graham and senator talked about obama not try him as an enemy combatants. it was said to see him go, he was a fine figure and a state senator, isn't it? >> al a high state legislature is much more sophisticated than we saw here today. >> let's talk about lindsey graham. sang the government should have left dzhokhar tsarnaev as an enemy combat and, at least on the table as a possibility. >> it is not permissible under the law. you cannot treat an american citizen who is accused of committing an american crime against mostly american citizens in boston as an enemy combatants. it would turn our country -- >> it has never happened before. >> into martial law. the supreme court struck that down and american citizens were charged with crimes and this fellow is being charged with an ordinary crime that anybody could be charged with the team made a bomb to kill his mother-in-law. it does not require any allegation of terrorism. the idea we can deny and trial by jury, speedy trial, all of the things in the constitution and the bill of rights provides would turn our
senator lindsey graham and senator talked about obama not try him as an enemy combatants. it was said to see him go, he was a fine figure and a state senator, isn't it? >> al a high state legislature is much more sophisticated than we saw here today. >> let's talk about lindsey graham. sang the government should have left dzhokhar tsarnaev as an enemy combat and, at least on the table as a possibility. >> it is not permissible under the law. you cannot treat an american...
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another sensitive issue raised by republican senators, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte, peter king, they released a statement, the suspect, based upon his actions, clearly is a good candidate for enemy combat tant status. we do not want the suspect to remain silent. we have concerns that limiting this investigation to 48 hours and exclusively relying on the public safety exception to miranda could very well be a national security mistake. is this realistic he would be named as an enemy combat talent, denying him rights even though's u.s. citizen, he was naturalized on september 11th of last year and he was arrested in the united states? >> no, this is a deep philosophical division between the obama administration and some of the republican -- sorry about this and what that means is the obama administration has said the criminal justice system can make this work, the criminal can handle national security risks like this person, terrorists have been prosecuted, moussaoui. this administration is committed to using the american courts there are some critics, like senator mccain, like senator
another sensitive issue raised by republican senators, lindsey graham, kelly ayotte, peter king, they released a statement, the suspect, based upon his actions, clearly is a good candidate for enemy combat tant status. we do not want the suspect to remain silent. we have concerns that limiting this investigation to 48 hours and exclusively relying on the public safety exception to miranda could very well be a national security mistake. is this realistic he would be named as an enemy combat...
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we saw senators john mccain, lindsey graham, put out a statement on friday afternoon saying this should not have happened at all. if you are going support comprehensive immigration reform, it would be to make sure that people come out of the shadows, that the country knows who is in this country and who is not. they were really defensive, trying to come out for this type of thing. it is important to note in this debate that these two brothers came to the united states for asylum, but i am not sure that is applicable to the big contours' of the immigration reform bill that is trying to give a pathway to citizenship to people who are illegal in this country, not those who came in under asylum. host: the fbi is under some criticism because apparently they had looked into the older brothers trip to russia. he was there for six months. they don't know who we had contact with and the fbi basically said he was not a threat. and of course we know what happened last monday. guest: there will be a tremendous amount of reporting over the next several days about what the fbi knew and did not know.
we saw senators john mccain, lindsey graham, put out a statement on friday afternoon saying this should not have happened at all. if you are going support comprehensive immigration reform, it would be to make sure that people come out of the shadows, that the country knows who is in this country and who is not. they were really defensive, trying to come out for this type of thing. it is important to note in this debate that these two brothers came to the united states for asylum, but i am not...
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host: senator lindsey graham of south carolina. roberta kaplan, who is his audience? guest: two groups talking to. the first is the american people are not unanimous about whether people who entered this country illegally should be able to become citizens one day. so he is speaking to the american people broadly, a minority, but people not get behind a lot of the provisions in the proposal. on capitol hill, there are some people who are very concerned about what happened in t last timerede rgan granted a mass amnesty. there were about 3 million people at the time who re legal aftethat process. what's happened over the last few decades is that people just kept coming back here illegally. that's one of the things people are very concerned about stopping this time. chief among those people is jeff sessions from alabama. he has two major concerns probably will hear about today in the judiciary committee. one is that the influx of workers into the legal system will create too much competition on employment opportunities and wages for american workers. he's also concerned a
host: senator lindsey graham of south carolina. roberta kaplan, who is his audience? guest: two groups talking to. the first is the american people are not unanimous about whether people who entered this country illegally should be able to become citizens one day. so he is speaking to the american people broadly, a minority, but people not get behind a lot of the provisions in the proposal. on capitol hill, there are some people who are very concerned about what happened in t last timerede rgan...
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we saw senators john mccain of arizona, lindsey graham of south carolina put out a statement on friday afternoon saying that this should not impact it at all. in fact, if you are going to support comprehensive immigration reform it would be to make sure that people couple out of the shadows. and they were really defensive at trying to come out for this type of thing. it is important to note in this debate, though, that these two brothers came to the united states via asylum when they were ages 9 to 15 or 16. i'm not sure that's apcabble to the big contours of the reform bill that's trying to give a pathway to citizenship to people. not people who had come in legally through asigh lull. >> as investigators try to figure out between the brothers and russia, the f.b.i. is under some criticism because apparently they had looked into the older brothers trip to russia. pete has been reporting this over the last 4 hours. there for six months. they don't know who he had contact with and also the f.b.i. saying he wasn't a threat. >> well, that is one of the big mysteries, there's going to be a
we saw senators john mccain of arizona, lindsey graham of south carolina put out a statement on friday afternoon saying that this should not impact it at all. in fact, if you are going to support comprehensive immigration reform it would be to make sure that people couple out of the shadows. and they were really defensive at trying to come out for this type of thing. it is important to note in this debate, though, that these two brothers came to the united states via asylum when they were ages...
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what these old white men like mccain or lindsey graham, they turn around and stick a knife in the back of young white men like me. they turn their compassion outward, not inward. family values start at home. this issue on before because it matters to me as a guy who has been displaced by immigrant illegal labor. you have to be affected by immigration -- you should not be able to comment about it unless you are affected by it. we halted migration from germany 100 years ago because germany was a hornet nest. we halted migration from norway because wisconsin norwegians were not assimilating. those guys were blonde haired, blue-eyed. he always acted, had a moratoriums's, to digest these people. moratorium year from 1924-65, which is attacked by leftists like obama is some sort of racist things. you've made your point. let's go to sea of tranquility -- "the washington post" has this -- looking at other stories in the news, a new story from "the baltimore sun" -- william is our next call, glendale, maryland, independent. caller: how are you this morning? i could not disagree with more with t
what these old white men like mccain or lindsey graham, they turn around and stick a knife in the back of young white men like me. they turn their compassion outward, not inward. family values start at home. this issue on before because it matters to me as a guy who has been displaced by immigrant illegal labor. you have to be affected by immigration -- you should not be able to comment about it unless you are affected by it. we halted migration from germany 100 years ago because germany was a...
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we saw senators john mccain, lindsey graham, put out a statement on friday afternoon saying this should not have happened at all. if you are going support comprehensive immigration reform, it would be to make sure that people come out of the shadows, that the country knows who is in this country and who is not. they were really defensive, trying to come out for this type of thing. it is important to note in this debate that these two brothers came to the united states for sure thatt i am not is applicable to the big contours' of the immigration reform bill that is trying to give a pathway to citizenship to people who are illegal in this country, not those who came in under asylum. host: the fbi is under some criticism because apparently they had looked into the older brothers trip to russia. six months. for they don't know who we had contact with and the fbi basically said he was not a threat. and of course we know what happened last monday. guest: there will be a tremendous amount of reporting over the next several days about what the fbi knew and did not know. in some type of instance
we saw senators john mccain, lindsey graham, put out a statement on friday afternoon saying this should not have happened at all. if you are going support comprehensive immigration reform, it would be to make sure that people come out of the shadows, that the country knows who is in this country and who is not. they were really defensive, trying to come out for this type of thing. it is important to note in this debate that these two brothers came to the united states for sure thatt i am not is...
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i think lindsey graham named it well when he called the schumer- mccain. the leadership of those two gentlemen in this process has been outstanding. it was everything i wished i could see since i have been here. when this bill is passed, it it will be a reaffirmation of two incredibly american ideas. the idea we are committed to the rule of law and the idea that we are a nation of immigrants. i would argue that it is those two ideas working together that decade after decade has enabled every generation of americans to invent the future. it is our time in the 21st century to decide whether we are still up to that task, whether we can continue to invent the future not just here, but the entire world. s of tential ourselves to thesei part of moving us forward. i want to thank the people in colorado who told me on how broken immigration system is effect in their lives and their works. the cattle ranchers on the eastern point. the people working in the high- tech field. the people who are the dreamers when i was superintendent of the denver public schools. each
i think lindsey graham named it well when he called the schumer- mccain. the leadership of those two gentlemen in this process has been outstanding. it was everything i wished i could see since i have been here. when this bill is passed, it it will be a reaffirmation of two incredibly american ideas. the idea we are committed to the rule of law and the idea that we are a nation of immigrants. i would argue that it is those two ideas working together that decade after decade has enabled every...
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senator lindsey graham treating about the suspect. if captured, i hope the administration will continue -- consider holding the suspect as an enemy combatant for intelligence-gathering purposes. over at the white house the president has received a couple of briefings today on the situation. one just wrapped up by certain while the. this is an earlier briefing. politico writes the president spoke this afternoon to deval patrick and thomas menino, as he did it to be briefed on developments creek he was briefed before 4:00 p. ts afternoon according to an assistant at the white house. the president expressed his condolences for t two polic officers kille overnight in his conversations with the governor and boston mayor barry at the earlier briefing, john kerry was also in attendance, and ahead of that, he had held a short briefing with reporters and the mexican foreign minister, and at the start of that briefing, that george briefing he spoke briefly as well about the situation in boston. here is what he had to say. say as a father and gr
senator lindsey graham treating about the suspect. if captured, i hope the administration will continue -- consider holding the suspect as an enemy combatant for intelligence-gathering purposes. over at the white house the president has received a couple of briefings today on the situation. one just wrapped up by certain while the. this is an earlier briefing. politico writes the president spoke this afternoon to deval patrick and thomas menino, as he did it to be briefed on developments creek...
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graham who overall had very little to gain from taking on a tough challenge like immigration reform, but willing to do so that he knows it is in the national interest and national security and the economy and what is right. that epitomizes all of my colleagues efforts. at the very beginning, i was not sure of the commitment of all of my colleagues. i must say they're shortly after the first few meetings, it became way too mean that there were tough moments that there was a real desire to solve a problem that has for too long gone unsolved. i salute each and every one of them. it was one of the highest moms i have had in the senate, but even in the 20 years of being a house of representatives in congress. i'm looking forward to keep in that same tenacity and commitment. our system of immigration is broken. americans know that. they want to see it fixed. this is about preserving the national security. it is about enhancing the national economy. it is about preserving an american tradition that has had an exceptional reality of the greatest experiment in the history of mankind, bringing
graham who overall had very little to gain from taking on a tough challenge like immigration reform, but willing to do so that he knows it is in the national interest and national security and the economy and what is right. that epitomizes all of my colleagues efforts. at the very beginning, i was not sure of the commitment of all of my colleagues. i must say they're shortly after the first few meetings, it became way too mean that there were tough moments that there was a real desire to solve...
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graham have released a statement on the image hortense -- on the importance of immigration security. some have suggested that the circumstances of the terrible tragedy is a justification for delaying or stopping the effort for comprehensive immigration reform. in fact the opposite is true. immigration reform will strengthen our nation security by helping us identify exactly who has entered our country and to has left. a basic function of government that our broken immigration system is incapable of accomplishing today. the status quo is unacceptable. >> tomorrow on "washington journal" and roundtable discussion on the use of surveillance cameras with ginger mccall. uel marc gerecht. and a security bill working its way through congress. and a bill that found gaps in oversight compound pharmacies across the country. at 7ington journal" live a.m. eastern on c-span. is the most expensive weapons system in the history of the united states. fighter jetanced that is to be used by the air force, the navy, and the marine corps. it is a replacement for the f- 16 a number of other planes for th
graham have released a statement on the image hortense -- on the importance of immigration security. some have suggested that the circumstances of the terrible tragedy is a justification for delaying or stopping the effort for comprehensive immigration reform. in fact the opposite is true. immigration reform will strengthen our nation security by helping us identify exactly who has entered our country and to has left. a basic function of government that our broken immigration system is...
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i don't want to speak for lindsey graham or kelly ayotte, but i think what they would say is we would like absolutely to have the possibility. if there is ticking time bomb let's find out about it. miranda was put into place so you don't have coercion and false confessions under pressure. you don't want to have that but you can prevent that in earth ways too. you can videotape the entire proceeding but you also want to have a more thorough investigation, again because you want to know the methods that are being used. if one of the brothers went to chechnya as we think he did, and was trained by whom or what cells was he told to go back and do this. anytime of your own choosing? will you get a phone call to tell you to do it? was he in touch with other cells may not do something immediately but in three months and at that time people will be killed? i'm absolutely for constitutional questions but it was justice robert jackson who said the constitution is not a suicide pact. to choose not to know is wrong. i want to also raise one other thing and i think senator graham was quite right i
i don't want to speak for lindsey graham or kelly ayotte, but i think what they would say is we would like absolutely to have the possibility. if there is ticking time bomb let's find out about it. miranda was put into place so you don't have coercion and false confessions under pressure. you don't want to have that but you can prevent that in earth ways too. you can videotape the entire proceeding but you also want to have a more thorough investigation, again because you want to know the...
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on the republican side, senator mccain, senator lindsey graham, senator jeff flake of arizona, senator marco rubio of florida. when you put the eight of news a roornlings you havnewsroom, youl political spectrum. we tried to do our best toeal with immigration in america. it is a substantial chasm america's immigration system is badly, badly broafnl broafnlt it because we estimate there are 11 million people living in tuny . eople that get up and go to work every day, tma have picked the fruits that you put onr cereal this morning. they could be cleaning the room you slept in in chicago. they're spread across the econo. they're hardworking people. but they're undocumented, they have no country. about half them are here because they came initially as visitors or college students, and they stayed. they are here illegally. there are no questions about t they are undocumented. and the questions we've asked ourselves overed and over for the last many years, what are we going to do? in the last presidential campaign, governor romney said they should self-deport themselves, they should leave.
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immigration reform lindsey graham. >> north korea indiana. and boston airthon, lindsey graham? jesus. >> i have a feeling they just book him week after week after week, and the bookers were too lazy to say, we have breaking news -- >> bill: they probably up on the wall they have -- every sunday they have lindsey graham booked already. they don't care. that's the first question why? why? okay. and the second question is what does the freaking know about it right? i mean wtf lindsey graham let the justice department and the fbi and the authorities do their job, stay the you know what out of it. stay out of it. i mean just stfu lindsey graham. he and john mccain of course his butt boy -- or which one is which i don't know. and pete king same thing they want to turn this into a political football. they want to turn this act of terror and heroic work by our law enforcement officers into political football, and it pisses me off, and it should piss everyone else off. they should just shut up. 866-55-press, don't you think? >> announcer: this is the "bill press show." ♪ that viewers
immigration reform lindsey graham. >> north korea indiana. and boston airthon, lindsey graham? jesus. >> i have a feeling they just book him week after week after week, and the bookers were too lazy to say, we have breaking news -- >> bill: they probably up on the wall they have -- every sunday they have lindsey graham booked already. they don't care. that's the first question why? why? okay. and the second question is what does the freaking know about it right? i mean wtf...
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>> i think lindsey graham was getting more information about his ties to al-qaeda. and on his hospital bed yesterday he said they are religious, but they don't have ties to any larger network. >> stephanie: yeah. exactly. that's what the fbi was saying initially. can i just say one of my favorite things is -- is the description -- because, you know, he was mad initially what he was tweeting was that you killed my brother. i think he actually killed his brother. >> that was a fake twitter account. >> stephanie: oh, okay. but, you know, that he was -- but i'm just saying that was -- i thought i was the only one that thought that that it was a little road runner he had explosives and he was run over by his brother and dragged like 30 feet and it just was -- i don't know, somebody said he was holding an acme receipt, and i don't think so. my buddy howard kurz wrote the police and this is what i said about the plitttt -- chuck grassley rushed in to say he wants to exam immigration reform particularly in light of what happened last week in boston. this doesn't lend itself
>> i think lindsey graham was getting more information about his ties to al-qaeda. and on his hospital bed yesterday he said they are religious, but they don't have ties to any larger network. >> stephanie: yeah. exactly. that's what the fbi was saying initially. can i just say one of my favorite things is -- is the description -- because, you know, he was mad initially what he was tweeting was that you killed my brother. i think he actually killed his brother. >> that was a...
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>> caller: i feel sorry for lindsey graham. he embarrasses himself every time he doesn't vote democrat. doesn't he try to make everything scary. everything has to scare the public. has to be scary. has to be foreign so everyone stays scared. it is a warmongering thing and it has to do -- >> bill: everything is all about lindsey me, me, me. >> caller: i'm from illinois and i don't know why rick perry would want me to live in texas. that scares me that he think illinois businesspeople want to go to texas. >> bill: he also thinks california businesspeople want to go to texas too. he did that -- he tried to campaign out there, as well. hey, one other thing i wanted to mention, you probably heard the whining yesterday and no matter where you were, it sounded like sirens. no, they were republicans whining because there were air-traffic control delays yesterday, some flights delayed up to two hours. here's the republican governor of florida, rick scott. >> this doesn't make any sense why are we doing this. it is going to impact delays
>> caller: i feel sorry for lindsey graham. he embarrasses himself every time he doesn't vote democrat. doesn't he try to make everything scary. everything has to scare the public. has to be scary. has to be foreign so everyone stays scared. it is a warmongering thing and it has to do -- >> bill: everything is all about lindsey me, me, me. >> caller: i'm from illinois and i don't know why rick perry would want me to live in texas. that scares me that he think illinois...
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on lindsey graham gerald hunter says, once again, lindsey graham shows his dumb-ass face on fox news. i think the boston police and the fbi should come to south carolina and get this dumb ass, and make mark sanford and tim scott as a bonus. how can the people of south carolina be so stupid as to elect these idiots? well, the good news it looks like they may not reelect, mark sanford. that's a plus. [♪ theme music ♪] >> bill: good morning, and welcome, welcome to the "full court press" here on current tv this morning, wednesday april 24th. thanks for joining us, good to see you today, we have got lots to talk about, lots of news happening here in our nation's capitol, around the country and the globe, we'll bring you up to date on all of it no matter what it is we're there. we have got it covered. and we'll give you a chance to get involved in the conversation and tell us what it means to you and your family. 866-55-press is the toll-free number if you want to join us by phone. 866-557-7377. or you can join us on twitter, @bhshow, just make sure that your twitter account has not be
on lindsey graham gerald hunter says, once again, lindsey graham shows his dumb-ass face on fox news. i think the boston police and the fbi should come to south carolina and get this dumb ass, and make mark sanford and tim scott as a bonus. how can the people of south carolina be so stupid as to elect these idiots? well, the good news it looks like they may not reelect, mark sanford. that's a plus. [♪ theme music ♪] >> bill: good morning, and welcome, welcome to the "full court...
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you know you're not seeing that from lindsey graham or john mccain, and neither of them are doing the same amount of appearances. even though they were saying earlier at a press conference this could be call the mccain mccain-schumer bill. it's not the rubio bill, per se. he is a key part of t but he is taking the role of the chief spokesman of the group to the conservatives. >> michael: how valuable is this bill? what is your sense of what it will look lick by the like by the time it comes down for a vote. >> i think there will be amendments on both sides. it's likely that progressives will include something that like same-sex couples there might be amendments aimed of killing the bill entirely. but i think they vowed to make the bills stay stay at the original vision. they're willing to consider amendments. they're not trying to block all amendments, according to them, but i think they're committed to try to get it over the finish line as close to what it is as they possibly can. >> michael: elise foley, it will make you smarter if you read her in the "huffington post" on this issue
you know you're not seeing that from lindsey graham or john mccain, and neither of them are doing the same amount of appearances. even though they were saying earlier at a press conference this could be call the mccain mccain-schumer bill. it's not the rubio bill, per se. he is a key part of t but he is taking the role of the chief spokesman of the group to the conservatives. >> michael: how valuable is this bill? what is your sense of what it will look lick by the like by the time it...
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do you think lindsey graham keeps objection general in his office? >> oh, my stars. >> stephanie: he has barely a moment to stop getting the vapors over something. nearly hardly recovered from his benghazi vapors when now he has the vapors over why this guy isn't being treated as an enemy combatant. did jay carney not say it completely like -- there's only one way to say it. it is against the law. he is a united states citizen that committed the crime. jay carney said we will prosecute this terrorist through our civilian system of justice under u.s. law. united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions. >> if the justice department had tried him as an enemy combatant lindsey graham would have said you're break the law. he's an american citizen. >> stephanie: why didn't we follow donald trump's idea of waterboarding him before he recovered from his throat injuries to see what kind of information we could have gotten. >> water board him while his head is underwater. if he doesn't answer, then we know he did it. >> stephanie: he's dead. no
do you think lindsey graham keeps objection general in his office? >> oh, my stars. >> stephanie: he has barely a moment to stop getting the vapors over something. nearly hardly recovered from his benghazi vapors when now he has the vapors over why this guy isn't being treated as an enemy combatant. did jay carney not say it completely like -- there's only one way to say it. it is against the law. he is a united states citizen that committed the crime. jay carney said we will...
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it is like -- lindsey graham and john mccain saying these guys were international terrorists. to me, they're domestic terrorists. >> stephanie: again as legal experts have said, james that's a nonstarter. dzhokhar, the guy in the hospital is an american citizen committed on american soil. you can't try them as enemy combatants. you just can't. another '70s perfume for men? >> drakkar noir was '80s. >> stephanie: i would like to thank chris lavoie, jim ward, t-bone on phones and drums jacki, courtney, the whole gang over at current tv. dzhokhar. okay. >> i come from france. >> stephanie: see you tomorrow on "the stephanie miller show."
it is like -- lindsey graham and john mccain saying these guys were international terrorists. to me, they're domestic terrorists. >> stephanie: again as legal experts have said, james that's a nonstarter. dzhokhar, the guy in the hospital is an american citizen committed on american soil. you can't try them as enemy combatants. you just can't. another '70s perfume for men? >> drakkar noir was '80s. >> stephanie: i would like to thank chris lavoie, jim ward, t-bone on phones...
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i know john mccain, lindsey graham, couple of others are pushing for that. you need a little more evidence to know whether you can do that. you really have to know, did he become part of the terrorist war against the united states? these e-mails and texts that they're discovering kind of make a pretty good case that he was part of a group that's at war against the united states. if you can make that case, then you could try him in a military court. you could try him in guantanamo bay and not have the spectacle of this trial having to take place in boston or some other place where they would change venue. >> are you sure about military court? as i understand, it was for noncitizens and for foreign nationals. >> if a citizen becomes part of the war effort against the united states -- let's take an example like this. let's take the second world war. let's say an american citizen went to germany and joined the nazi army and invaded the united states, we could try that person in a military court. now, the nature of this war is so ambiguous, you're going to get a
i know john mccain, lindsey graham, couple of others are pushing for that. you need a little more evidence to know whether you can do that. you really have to know, did he become part of the terrorist war against the united states? these e-mails and texts that they're discovering kind of make a pretty good case that he was part of a group that's at war against the united states. if you can make that case, then you could try him in a military court. you could try him in guantanamo bay and not...
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we'll talk to senator lindsey graham about this. he is coming up later this hour. bill: meanwhile, martha, a lawyer for tamerlan's widow, american widow is assisting and cooperating in the investigation. her family, the russell family in massachusetts, struggling to come to terms with his alleged involvement. this statement released through her attorney just late yesterday. >> the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. as a mother, a sister, a daughter, a wife, katie deeply mourns the pain and loss to innocent victims, students, law enforcement officers, families, and our community. in the aftermath of this tram did i she, her daughter, and her family are trying to come to terms with this event. bill: so now we're piecing this together the following way. we hear that russell last saw her husband on thursday, only hours before he died in a gunbattle with police in cambridge, massachusetts. she was handing off their 2-year-old daughter to stay with him while she went to work. again, that was thursday of last we
we'll talk to senator lindsey graham about this. he is coming up later this hour. bill: meanwhile, martha, a lawyer for tamerlan's widow, american widow is assisting and cooperating in the investigation. her family, the russell family in massachusetts, struggling to come to terms with his alleged involvement. this statement released through her attorney just late yesterday. >> the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. as a mother,...
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senator lindsey graham republican of south carolina is a member of the judiciary committee and stepped out of a hearing to join us. nice to have you back on the program. >> thank you very much. jenna: let's talk a little bit about what you had to say about radical islam. you say yo we need to up our game. what specifically do you mean by upping our game against radical islam. >> the first thing we need to do is reject the narrative of this administration that osama bin laden is dead, the wars are receding and we are all safe. they've been trying to suggest since the death of osama bin laden that al-qaida is basically being dismantled, and the wars are receding. what i mean by upping our game? making sure that when the ambassador in libya tells the state department, and the department of defense, that al-qaida flags are flying over benghazi, i can't defend my consulate against a coordinated attack, that you do something about it. that when a consulate is under attack an and ambassador is missing for seven and a half hours you have the ability to go to their rescue, and after the fact yo
senator lindsey graham republican of south carolina is a member of the judiciary committee and stepped out of a hearing to join us. nice to have you back on the program. >> thank you very much. jenna: let's talk a little bit about what you had to say about radical islam. you say yo we need to up our game. what specifically do you mean by upping our game against radical islam. >> the first thing we need to do is reject the narrative of this administration that osama bin laden is...
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i think gram gram overstated the argument, you're right. -- lindsey graham. you're a terrorist attempting to be member of a sleeper cell it is unclear you will necessarily surface as this proposed new law requires you to do and make yourself known to authorities. on the other hand here is the ironic thing. in a way the bill could make us safer from this perspective. the two brothers came here when their family came here. their family came here look like they had other families already here. the parents of two the brothers had a brother, their uncle already here in the united states and they therefore appear like they might have come here, they got extra points for already having relatives here in the united states. this is called chained migration. if you got a family member here, whether it is an uncle, an aunt, father, mother, grandfather, cousin, whatever, you get a little bit extra oomph in the line in order to get here and the new law being proposed by the "gang of eight" would dial back immigration based on family considerations and dial up immigration
i think gram gram overstated the argument, you're right. -- lindsey graham. you're a terrorist attempting to be member of a sleeper cell it is unclear you will necessarily surface as this proposed new law requires you to do and make yourself known to authorities. on the other hand here is the ironic thing. in a way the bill could make us safer from this perspective. the two brothers came here when their family came here. their family came here look like they had other families already here. the...
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i know john mccain, lindsey graham, couple of others are pushing for that. you need a little more evidence to know whether you can do that. you really have to know, did he become part of the terrorist war against the united states? these e-mails and texts that they're discovering kind of make a pretty good case that he was part of a group that's at war against the united states. if you can make that case, then you could try him in a military court. you could try him in guantanamo bay and not have the spectacle of this trial having to take place in boston or some other place where they would change venue. >> are you sure about military court? as i understand, it was for noncitizens and for foreign nationals. >> if a citizen becomes part of the war effort against the united states -- let's take an example like this. let's take the second world war. let's say an american citizen went to germany and joined the nazi army and invaded the united states, we could try that person in a military court. now, the nature of this war is so ambiguous, you're going to get a
i know john mccain, lindsey graham, couple of others are pushing for that. you need a little more evidence to know whether you can do that. you really have to know, did he become part of the terrorist war against the united states? these e-mails and texts that they're discovering kind of make a pretty good case that he was part of a group that's at war against the united states. if you can make that case, then you could try him in a military court. you could try him in guantanamo bay and not...
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lindsey graham was on of the chat shows yesterday, said absolutely. this guy is not a common criminal. he was out to kill americans. what do you think? enemy combatant? >> well, there are some people who think that enemy commits an act of terrorism should be tried in our criminal carts and others think they should be designated as enemy combatants. it's complicated question and seems to me what this administration should be looking at is what is the best way to get this person -- to bring him to justice, and also the best route to insure that we get the best information we can because that information could be helpful in prehave noting additional attacks in the future and that could provide answers which could bring some measure of closure to the victims as the families. i suspect what's going on now is you're having a talk in the administration looking at all the information and deciding what's the best way to treat both of those objectives. >> steve: at this point it sounds like what the government is doing is using the public safety exemption where
lindsey graham was on of the chat shows yesterday, said absolutely. this guy is not a common criminal. he was out to kill americans. what do you think? enemy combatant? >> well, there are some people who think that enemy commits an act of terrorism should be tried in our criminal carts and others think they should be designated as enemy combatants. it's complicated question and seems to me what this administration should be looking at is what is the best way to get this person -- to bring...
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graham and janet napolitano. we will get into it more later. the gist of it is why didn't we know about tamerlan's trip to russia, given the fact that he had been -- he had been, you know, asked questions already by the fbi, and at one point janet napolitano in this hearing today suggested, well he pinged on the way out. we picked him up on the way out. mike levine sailed he was on a very large watch list not a terror watch list that doesn't have a whole lot of significance. the big thing here, bob is are we doing what we need to be doing in terms of keeping track of people who have been on the radar in this country, or are we throwing up our hands and saying we can't find anything on them so we are done with that. >> this is the third time the fbi has let people slip through their fingers. they interviewed the guy before he went to russia. then he went to russia in an area near chechnya and he was there for six months. at that point it would seem to me it would trigger something, somewhere along the line. martha
graham and janet napolitano. we will get into it more later. the gist of it is why didn't we know about tamerlan's trip to russia, given the fact that he had been -- he had been, you know, asked questions already by the fbi, and at one point janet napolitano in this hearing today suggested, well he pinged on the way out. we picked him up on the way out. mike levine sailed he was on a very large watch list not a terror watch list that doesn't have a whole lot of significance. the big thing here,...
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she told lindsey graham something totally different. what is going on with this cabinet secretary? >> clearly it doesn't work when you have a bombing at the boston marathon and these people are dead and some injured. the system is designed to prevent something like that from happening. so it would be horrible to say the system worked. if you want to say law enforcement afterwards did a good job, i'm all for that. i think they did a fabulous job in catching the guys as quickly maybe as they could. but before hand, the system did not work. now, is that just because of it's so difficult to follow these things or were there specific things they could have done to prevent it? that's a serious question to be asked. >> brian: to finish up, we know the deputy f.b.i. director told senator graham that they misspelled his name, they had no record he was going over there. therefore, there was neaping. the homeland security -- pinging. napolitano says there was a ping. that bothers me that they're not on the same page. i'm not even judging them. but as a person who is an expert in leadership, w
she told lindsey graham something totally different. what is going on with this cabinet secretary? >> clearly it doesn't work when you have a bombing at the boston marathon and these people are dead and some injured. the system is designed to prevent something like that from happening. so it would be horrible to say the system worked. if you want to say law enforcement afterwards did a good job, i'm all for that. i think they did a fabulous job in catching the guys as quickly maybe as...
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>>> and why is senator lindsey graham upset at the nation? stay with us. >>> i believe our nation is at war. the enemy is radical islam, the taliban, al qaeda and affiliated groups. i've always had to keep my eye on her... but, i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care... i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health profile. not random statistics. they even reward me for addressing my health risks. so i'm doing fine... but she's still going to give me a heart attack. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still "stubbed" up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] it doesn't have a decongestant. no way. [ male announcer ] sorry. alka-seltzer plus fights your worst cold symptoms plus has a fast acting decongestant to relieve your stuffy nose. [ sighs ] thanks! [ male announcer ] you're wel
>>> and why is senator lindsey graham upset at the nation? stay with us. >>> i believe our nation is at war. the enemy is radical islam, the taliban, al qaeda and affiliated groups. i've always had to keep my eye on her... but, i didn't always watch out for myself. with so much noise about health care... i tuned it all out. with unitedhealthcare, i get information that matters... my individual health profile. not random statistics. they even reward me for addressing my health...
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graham. >> the only thing you need to know about lindsey gram right now is that he's running for re-election. even though he knows better, even though he knows that dzhokhar, for example, is not going to be tried as an enemy combatant, even though he knows his allegations against the president are ridiculous, it's a way of him scoring political points. i'll say, you know, i don't think there's anything wrong as you were pointing out asking questions about, okay, did the fbi follow the right course here? >> the investigation. >> absolutely. but when you go for this nakedly political point instead, you actually undermine those sorts of honest investigations. because it turns it into political football rather than a real inquiry into what happened and if there was anything we could do or anything we could learn. >> i think, joan, there is a legitimate questions one could raise, whether i agree with them or you agree with them or not. >> right. >> but to rev up benghazi, too? it is clear they're trying to get all kind of old political points, mixing in with new questions. because what benghazi a
graham. >> the only thing you need to know about lindsey gram right now is that he's running for re-election. even though he knows better, even though he knows that dzhokhar, for example, is not going to be tried as an enemy combatant, even though he knows his allegations against the president are ridiculous, it's a way of him scoring political points. i'll say, you know, i don't think there's anything wrong as you were pointing out asking questions about, okay, did the fbi follow the...
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graham, kelly ayotte, and new york's representative, peter king. let's give you a accepts where this is right now. so law enforcement enacted basically an effort not to read tsarnaev his miranda rights. that means not telling him he has the right to remain silent under what they call the public safety exception, allows them to get as much information as they can within the immediate hours after his arrest. in case there is information about other plots or perhaps other accomplices but it's li likely that he hasn't even been questioned yet because of his state, his serious condition, that this may not matter. he may have been read his miranda rights by a judge as early as tomorrow. the republican lawmakers, of course, say the public safety exception doesn't go far enough, that he should be treated as an enemy combatant. we do not want this suspect to have the right to remain silent. here is a little bit more about what they said. i'll put this graphic up on the screen. this is from a statement released by those republican lawmakers who say we have c
graham, kelly ayotte, and new york's representative, peter king. let's give you a accepts where this is right now. so law enforcement enacted basically an effort not to read tsarnaev his miranda rights. that means not telling him he has the right to remain silent under what they call the public safety exception, allows them to get as much information as they can within the immediate hours after his arrest. in case there is information about other plots or perhaps other accomplices but it's li...
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. >> lindsey graham is doing a whole bunch of talk radio this morning. it's clear to me, we know why they probably booked all these interviews. because they're worried that this is where the immigration issue could percolate where all of the sudden the connection to boston happens. >> i think it also shows that compared to the last time around in '06 and '07 the republicans who were for this type of legislation are a lot more active in trying to engage with the conservative critics. >> dan, that does seem to be a huge difference before, they would lament maybe to you in interviews. but they wouldn't actively try to fix this. >> yeah. you know, they're pushing forward in a way they weren't before. they're much more confident about the reasons why they're doing this. and they're -- they feel much less defensive about it when they're being criticized by their own people. >> at the press conference amongst the most eloquent were marco rubio. the marco rubio. >> you were there. richard. this was the most fascinating -- >> it's a definition of kumbaya. >> it g
. >> lindsey graham is doing a whole bunch of talk radio this morning. it's clear to me, we know why they probably booked all these interviews. because they're worried that this is where the immigration issue could percolate where all of the sudden the connection to boston happens. >> i think it also shows that compared to the last time around in '06 and '07 the republicans who were for this type of legislation are a lot more active in trying to engage with the conservative critics....
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here's republican senator lindsey graham. >> between benghazi and boston, we are letting our guard down and it's beginning to show. >> now it's not just boston. it's benghazi, too. the right wingers are even more extreme. >> yeah, they are all democrats. well, of course they are democrats. joker with a tweet celebrating obama's re-election. i've got the tweet. of course they are all democrats. you think these guys are voting for romney? >> president obama hates this country. he doesn't like america as it was founded and muslims don't either. they hate america. they mate america's founder and that's the bond that they share. >> these are hateful, ugly comments but they are distractions and political stunts that make us less safe, not more. terrorism is a serious challenge that we as a country need to face together, united, not divided. joining me now, congressman adam shift, democrat from california and a member of the permanent select committee on intelligence. he was at the closed-door house briefing today on the boston bombings. and former governor ed rendell, an msnbc analyst. thanks
here's republican senator lindsey graham. >> between benghazi and boston, we are letting our guard down and it's beginning to show. >> now it's not just boston. it's benghazi, too. the right wingers are even more extreme. >> yeah, they are all democrats. well, of course they are democrats. joker with a tweet celebrating obama's re-election. i've got the tweet. of course they are all democrats. you think these guys are voting for romney? >> president obama hates this...
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lindsey graham sweet twooetieet telling him to remain silent. that would be the last thing. somehow terrorism makes it fine, right? >> we don't really know if this is terrorism. we don't know if there's political motivations. >> we don't know. we have to establish the definition of terror. everybody was terrorized. the political definition is something else. secondly, john ralston said imagine if you're the person subjected to the recriminations you want to put forth. be very careful if something happens in your family and your kid does something and your kid is on the terror list and the no-fly list, that's a different kettle of fish. it's unfamiliar evil versus familiar evil. when you made the point about we've incubated in our own culture a homegrown terrorist, that strikes terror at the heart of america. guess what? hey, ask the minority people, we're familiar with homegrown domestic terrorists. those ain't muslim, they're christian and twisting the cross and doing things. we have to be very careful about assuming that immediately this was an act of terror, what motivate
lindsey graham sweet twooetieet telling him to remain silent. that would be the last thing. somehow terrorism makes it fine, right? >> we don't really know if this is terrorism. we don't know if there's political motivations. >> we don't know. we have to establish the definition of terror. everybody was terrorized. the political definition is something else. secondly, john ralston said imagine if you're the person subjected to the recriminations you want to put forth. be very...
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four our republican senators joined in lindsey graham's call to label him as an enemy combatant. how likely is it at this point that's going to happen? >> i think it's still a call that's yet to be made. you certainly had the democratic senators, some of them will say no. they will follow the same line of thinking that the aclu does. certainly in the sunday show this morning, senator dick durbin said he is opposed to having the trial in the military court. so i think this will play out largely on partisan lines. >> dave, you've done some reporting on this, and it sounds as if, again, there's a d distinction between labeled enemy combatant in terms of being question ed, but at this point it does not seem as it he can be tried as an enemy combatant? >> no. the starting question, enemy combatant for whom? the resolution in 2001 said that, oun enemy combatants are members of organizations that carried out the 9/11 attacks. we're not at war with chechnya, any organization connected to these terrorists so far, we're simply not at war with them. we should be in contact with russians wha
four our republican senators joined in lindsey graham's call to label him as an enemy combatant. how likely is it at this point that's going to happen? >> i think it's still a call that's yet to be made. you certainly had the democratic senators, some of them will say no. they will follow the same line of thinking that the aclu does. certainly in the sunday show this morning, senator dick durbin said he is opposed to having the trial in the military court. so i think this will play out...
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as some republican senators includes lindsey graham called for. senator graham challenged them saying the decision they made premature. let's listen. >> here's my concern. as a lawyer for over 30 years, civilian and military, i strongly support the concept that no criminal defendant should ever be required to incriminate themselves while they're in custody of the government. every nation at war should have the ability to defend themselves by gathering intelligence. these are not mutually exclusive concepts. i believe our nation is at war. the enemy is radical islam defined as the taliban, al qaeda, and affiliated groups. the question i have regarding this case, is there any association between these two individuals and the groups i just named, to allow enemy combatant status to be conferred upon the suspect in boston? >> let's drill down on the legal status of the boston bombing suspect. kendall coffey. the great jonathan turley, here in washington. thank you for this. can they decide later if a piece of evidence shows up a week from now, that sho
as some republican senators includes lindsey graham called for. senator graham challenged them saying the decision they made premature. let's listen. >> here's my concern. as a lawyer for over 30 years, civilian and military, i strongly support the concept that no criminal defendant should ever be required to incriminate themselves while they're in custody of the government. every nation at war should have the ability to defend themselves by gathering intelligence. these are not mutually...
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here's senator lindsey graham trying to, as usual, tying it to benghazi to make the point the administration is letting its guard down. he's always talking about benghazi. now he's tying it to boston with benghazi. this has become almost an m.o. with him. let's watch. >> something's not right here. i don't want to be judgmental, but i want to make sure that we're safe. >> yeah. >> between benghazi and boston, we're going backward in national security. this administration is letting -- letting its guard down. and it is beginning to show. >> well, more aggressive and more partisan still is republican congressman tom cotton today. he went further. he compared the record of the last four years under president obama negatively to that of president george w. bush. interesting choice there. let's listen to his conclusion. >> in barely four years in office, five jihadists have reached their targets in the united states under barack obama. the boston marathon bomber, the underwear bomber, the times square bomber, the ft. hood shooter, and in my own state, the little rock recruiting office shooter. in
here's senator lindsey graham trying to, as usual, tying it to benghazi to make the point the administration is letting its guard down. he's always talking about benghazi. now he's tying it to boston with benghazi. this has become almost an m.o. with him. let's watch. >> something's not right here. i don't want to be judgmental, but i want to make sure that we're safe. >> yeah. >> between benghazi and boston, we're going backward in national security. this administration is...
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some of the criticism is being let by lindsey graham of south carolina and john mccain. here was senator graham just a short time ago this morning. >> this man in my view should be designated as a potential enemy combatant and we should be allowed to question him for intelligence gathering purposes to find out about future attacks and terrorist organizations that may exist that he has knowledge of, and that evidence cannot be used against him in trial. that evidence is used to protect us as a nation. >> but a suspect like this one in a case like this can't be tried in a military tribunal because of what's called the national defense authorization act of 2012, which basically says if you're an american citizen, to be tried as an enemy combatant, there has to at least be some tangible links that connect you to enemy forces. among them, al qaeda. the next question, though, is if he should be treated as a standard criminal defendant, or if some of the rights should be different given the accusations of terror against this man, dzhokhar tsarnaev. and that relates to in mirand
some of the criticism is being let by lindsey graham of south carolina and john mccain. here was senator graham just a short time ago this morning. >> this man in my view should be designated as a potential enemy combatant and we should be allowed to question him for intelligence gathering purposes to find out about future attacks and terrorist organizations that may exist that he has knowledge of, and that evidence cannot be used against him in trial. that evidence is used to protect us...
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graham, john mccain, kelly ayotte, congressman peter king, all of whom have said this suspect based on his actions clearly is a good candidate for enemy combatant status. we do not want this suspect to remain silent. talk about that in terms of what prosecutors are doing right now. is that the path down which prosecutors and any investigators are going right now? >> well, it's unclear whether or not they're going down that path to identify and designate him as an enemy combatant but they should at least go down the path to determine whether or not that is the designation they should make for this particular person. then they should do it based on our national security, national interest to determine whether or not identifying him as an enemy combatant will actually enhance our national security and national interest. >> what about the charges? what do you expect them to be against dzhokhar. >> well, if he's not designated as an enemy combat eant he wille charged federally. the first decision has to be if he's designated enemy combatant. if they decline, they'd be looking at charges
graham, john mccain, kelly ayotte, congressman peter king, all of whom have said this suspect based on his actions clearly is a good candidate for enemy combatant status. we do not want this suspect to remain silent. talk about that in terms of what prosecutors are doing right now. is that the path down which prosecutors and any investigators are going right now? >> well, it's unclear whether or not they're going down that path to identify and designate him as an enemy combatant but they...
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graham and jeff flake, they have done a great job. i think we have the outline of the proposal that can succeed. i think it's balanced. we have border security as a very important factor, but we also make it possible to have the border secured. it's not an insurmountable object but, most of all it takes them out of the shadows and gives them a chance to live in a free and open society and with a long and difficult path to citizenship but at least it brings them out of the shadows and make them able to become the kind of wonderful citizens that i know that the overwhelming majority of them will be. and i'm proud of the work we have done and it's been frankly for not the first time, the pleasure of working with chuck schumer who is a tough guy. >> he's from brooklyn. >> senator mccain you tried this in 2006 and 2007 and george w. bush was on your side and ted kennedy and that ended disastrously. what has made the difference in 2013? >> i think two things, joe. one, from the practical side. that is, obviously, the polarization of the his
graham and jeff flake, they have done a great job. i think we have the outline of the proposal that can succeed. i think it's balanced. we have border security as a very important factor, but we also make it possible to have the border secured. it's not an insurmountable object but, most of all it takes them out of the shadows and gives them a chance to live in a free and open society and with a long and difficult path to citizenship but at least it brings them out of the shadows and make them...
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. >> already some calls specifically from senator lindsey graham, specifically from senator john mccain for the suspect to be treated as an enemy combatant. how is legal action at this point most likely to move forward? >> reporter: well, the obama administration would never go for that, partly as a policy matter. they have made it quite clear that civilian courts are up to the task and they think in many ways better than military tribunals which are untested. civilian courts have convicted lots of terrorism defendants. it will be a federal case. they'll charge him withes with use of a weapons of mass destruction. the maximum penalty is the death penalty. the government will have to decide whether to seek that or not. there's an additional wrinkle here. he is an american citizen. he was a naturalized citizen last year oddly on 9/11 of last year, and there is an open legal question about whether even if the government wanted to, it could declare an american citizen captured on u.s. soil as an enemy combatant. it's an untested question. the government tried to do it in the case of jose pa
. >> already some calls specifically from senator lindsey graham, specifically from senator john mccain for the suspect to be treated as an enemy combatant. how is legal action at this point most likely to move forward? >> reporter: well, the obama administration would never go for that, partly as a policy matter. they have made it quite clear that civilian courts are up to the task and they think in many ways better than military tribunals which are untested. civilian courts have...
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graham, kelly ayotte, congressman peter king a short time ago, issued a statement this morning asking for the suspect to be tried as an enemy combatant. they said, in part, "we do not want the suspect to remain silent." senator chambliss, vice chair of the subcommittee on violence said "i'm disappointed that it appears this administration is once again relying on miranda's public safety exception to gather intelligence which only allows, at best, a 48-hour waiting period that may expire since the suspect has been critically wounded." will there be a public outcry, ed o'keefe, about all that's given, the suspect is a natural citizen? >> with those five senators -- lawmakers, certainly the outcry could potentially be beginning. it's no surprise that that quintet, if you will, is calling for the administration to handle him as what they describe as an enemy combat talent. the obama administration doesn't use that term anymore it allows for an indefinite detention of someone under national security concerns. that's what they are hoping for. we will see what the justice department decides,
graham, kelly ayotte, congressman peter king a short time ago, issued a statement this morning asking for the suspect to be tried as an enemy combatant. they said, in part, "we do not want the suspect to remain silent." senator chambliss, vice chair of the subcommittee on violence said "i'm disappointed that it appears this administration is once again relying on miranda's public safety exception to gather intelligence which only allows, at best, a 48-hour waiting period that may...
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graham said quote the last thing we may want to do is read boston suspect miranda rights time to quote remain silent and then a follow up by saying if captured i hope administration will least consider holding the boston suspect as enemy combatant for intelligence gathering purposes some state representatives took the sentiment even further calling actually torture the suspect new york state senator gregg paul wrote sos come bag number two in custody who wouldn't want to use torture on this punk to save more lives. i wouldn't and no one else that actually respects the rule of law and the constitution because guess what torture is illegal and it's never brought proper intel now it may not seem like that big of a deal to read a terrorist suspect his rights but ponder what glenn greenwald has said he said quote when you cheer for the erosion of your heart and rights you're cheering for the erosion of your own which is what we're already seen a mindset that has already allowed these rights to be taken for granted and compromised two years ago obama bypass congress to roll back miranda righ
graham said quote the last thing we may want to do is read boston suspect miranda rights time to quote remain silent and then a follow up by saying if captured i hope administration will least consider holding the boston suspect as enemy combatant for intelligence gathering purposes some state representatives took the sentiment even further calling actually torture the suspect new york state senator gregg paul wrote sos come bag number two in custody who wouldn't want to use torture on this...
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graham said quote the last thing we may want to do is read boston suspect miranda rights telling him to quote remain silent and then followed up by saying if captured i hope administration will lease consider holding the boston suspect as enemy combatant for intelligence gathering purposes some state representatives took the sentiment even further calling to actually torture the suspect new york state senator gregg paul wrote sos scumbag number two in custody who wouldn't want to use torture on this punk to save more lives. i wouldn't and no one else that actually respects the rule of law and the constitution because guess what torture is illegal and it's never brought proper intel now it may not seem like that big of a deal to read a terrorist suspect his rights but ponder what glenn greenwald has said he said quote when you cheer for the erosion of your heart and rights you're cheering for the erosion of your own which is what we're already seeing a mindset that has already allowed these rights to be taken for granted and compromised two years ago obama bypass congress to roll back
graham said quote the last thing we may want to do is read boston suspect miranda rights telling him to quote remain silent and then followed up by saying if captured i hope administration will lease consider holding the boston suspect as enemy combatant for intelligence gathering purposes some state representatives took the sentiment even further calling to actually torture the suspect new york state senator gregg paul wrote sos scumbag number two in custody who wouldn't want to use torture on...